Speakers....

[Tim S Kemp]

Thinking of this. Focal Access 165A front, Focal Access 130AC rear. Most of
the time there's only me in the car but I always feel guilty that the sound
in the back of my cars is always crap for those times when I have
passengers...

Are the Polyglass range really worth the extra money? Because I could go for
the Polyglass 165 fronts and get cheapo kenwood / pioneer / alpine /
infinity coaxes for the rear doors...

Head unit is alpine 9812RB, sub is an 8" self powered sony.
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[Conor]

Post by Tim S Kemp
Thinking of this. Focal Access 165A front, Focal Access 130AC rear. Most of
the time there's only me in the car but I always feel guilty that the sound
in the back of my cars is always crap for those times when I have
passengers...
Are the Polyglass range really worth the extra money? Because I could go for
the Polyglass 165 fronts and get cheapo kenwood / pioneer / alpine /
infinity coaxes for the rear doors...

I think it depends on how well insulated the cabin is as alot of the
time, external noise such as wind/engine/tyre means you can't hear the
difference.

[Pete M]

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Post by Tim S Kemp
Thinking of this. Focal Access 165A front, Focal Access 130AC rear.
Most of the time there's only me in the car but I always feel guilty
that the sound in the back of my cars is always crap for those times
when I have passengers...
Are the Polyglass range really worth the extra money? Because I could
go for the Polyglass 165 fronts and get cheapo kenwood / pioneer /
alpine / infinity coaxes for the rear doors...

I've got the same problem as you but in reverse. The Alfa uses 13cm
components in the dash, and 17cm jobs in the back shelf. The front ones,
despite being standard fit Alfa jobbies are actually pretty good, no bass,
but good for imaging because of their positioning and the well sited
tweeters. The ones in the rear are utter crap, but it looks like I've got to
remove the rear seat and shelf just to change the bloody things.

Don't know what to go for personally, but I'm looking at the Nakamichi
SP-S6500 for the shelf.

[Tim S Kemp]

Post by Pete M
I've got the same problem as you but in reverse. The Alfa uses 13cm
components in the dash, and 17cm jobs in the back shelf. The front
ones, despite being standard fit Alfa jobbies are actually pretty
good, no bass, but good for imaging because of their positioning and
the well sited tweeters. The ones in the rear are utter crap, but it
looks like I've got to remove the rear seat and shelf just to change
the bloody things.
Don't know what to go for personally, but I'm looking at the Nakamichi
SP-S6500 for the shelf.

where are you getting your nak stuff from? spec on the 6500 seems good and
the size would fit my front doors nicely - what's the price??

The 552 would fit my back doors too...

[Pete M]

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Post by Tim S Kemp

Post by Pete M
I've got the same problem as you but in reverse. The Alfa uses 13cm
components in the dash, and 17cm jobs in the back shelf. The front
ones, despite being standard fit Alfa jobbies are actually pretty
good, no bass, but good for imaging because of their positioning and
the well sited tweeters. The ones in the rear are utter crap, but it
looks like I've got to remove the rear seat and shelf just to change
the bloody things.
Don't know what to go for personally, but I'm looking at the
Nakamichi SP-S6500 for the shelf.

where are you getting your nak stuff from? spec on the 6500 seems
good and the size would fit my front doors nicely - what's the price??

Bought the head unit off some mad bloke on ebay, but he seems to be able to
get loads of other gear, he's bloody cheap, the stuff's all new in the box,
and if it's fallen off a lorry it's had a soft landing. Not the Hong Kong
import gear either, UK spec with the optional RDS, which is nice.

The speakers will probably come from my mate who runs a warehouse that just
deals in car audio stuff. If I don't go for Nak, I'll go for something
similar, maybe some top spec Harman Kardon gear. He runs mainly Alpine and
HK stuff in his Lexus, at the moment he's got around £20k worth of gear in
it, and as he's the main installer and his car is a sound off "quality" set
up, he pays bugger all for it. Hence me getting a £300 Ground Zero amp new,
in the box, for £70...

[Depresion]

Post by Pete M
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Post by Tim S Kemp

Post by Pete M
I've got the same problem as you but in reverse. The Alfa uses 13cm
components in the dash, and 17cm jobs in the back shelf. The front
ones, despite being standard fit Alfa jobbies are actually pretty
good, no bass, but good for imaging because of their positioning and
the well sited tweeters. The ones in the rear are utter crap, but it
looks like I've got to remove the rear seat and shelf just to change
the bloody things.
Don't know what to go for personally, but I'm looking at the
Nakamichi SP-S6500 for the shelf.

where are you getting your nak stuff from? spec on the 6500 seems
good and the size would fit my front doors nicely - what's the price??

Bought the head unit off some mad bloke on ebay, but he seems to be able to
get loads of other gear, he's bloody cheap, the stuff's all new in the box,
and if it's fallen off a lorry it's had a soft landing. Not the Hong Kong
import gear either, UK spec with the optional RDS, which is nice.

What HU do you have? I had a Nak CD500 earlier this year well 3 of them as they
froze up randomly when playing CDs. Still have a 400 in the mini.

[Tim S Kemp]

Post by Depresion
What HU do you have? I had a Nak CD500 earlier this year well 3 of
them as they froze up randomly when playing CDs. Still have a 400 in
the mini.

Nice though Nak head units are, I've never seen them as quite worth the
money over Alpine. Only alpine and nakamichi put decent amps in the head
units anyway.

[Pete M]

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Post by Depresion

Post by Pete M
Bought the head unit off some mad bloke on ebay, but he seems to be
able to get loads of other gear, he's bloody cheap, the stuff's all
new in the box, and if it's fallen off a lorry it's had a soft
landing. Not the Hong Kong import gear either, UK spec with the
optional RDS, which is nice.

What HU do you have? I had a Nak CD500 earlier this year well 3 of
them as they froze up randomly when playing CDs. Still have a 400 in
the mini.

CD300. Seems ok. Nice quality and was cheaper than buying a half decent
Alpine.

[Tim S Kemp]

Post by Pete M
CD300. Seems ok. Nice quality and was cheaper than buying a half
decent Alpine.

Must have been a cracking deal - I got my alpine for 199 quid (9812RB) -
couldn't find a CD300 for under 269 - maybe didn't look hard enough!

[Pete M]

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Post by Tim S Kemp

Post by Pete M
CD300. Seems ok. Nice quality and was cheaper than buying a half
decent Alpine.

Must have been a cracking deal - I got my alpine for 199 quid
(9812RB) - couldn't find a CD300 for under 269 - maybe didn't look
hard enough!

195 quid, bloke's in Leeds.

[Pete M]

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Post by Tim S Kemp

Post by Pete M
I've got the same problem as you but in reverse. The Alfa uses 13cm
components in the dash, and 17cm jobs in the back shelf. The front
ones, despite being standard fit Alfa jobbies are actually pretty
good, no bass, but good for imaging because of their positioning and
the well sited tweeters. The ones in the rear are utter crap, but it
looks like I've got to remove the rear seat and shelf just to change
the bloody things.
Don't know what to go for personally, but I'm looking at the
Nakamichi SP-S6500 for the shelf.

where are you getting your nak stuff from? spec on the 6500 seems
good and the size would fit my front doors nicely - what's the price??
The 552 would fit my back doors too...

Got myself a new pair of Ground Zero Plutonium GZPC 165SX for the obscenely
bargainesque price of £35.00. (Ordered for an SQ sound off car, fitted for a
week, hardly used and perfect..)

Rather happy I am, now I've just got to remove the back seat, take the shelf
out, and fit the bastards.