Replacement Blaupunkt system for a new Golf GTI?

[jslevin]

I'm considering replacing the factory fitted radio/CD player & speakers on
my forthcoming new 2006 Golf GTI.
I am considering one of the Blaupunkt Funline or T-Line radio/CD players
along with the facia bracket and wiring connections.
I also want to replace the door and rear speakers without resorting to
cutting any panel on a brand new car.
Does anyone have a recommendation for speakers of sufficient dimensions for
direct simple replacement?
I can't find any dimensions anywhere for the factory VW speakers fitted as
standard in the 2006 GTI.

Thanks for any help or advice.
John Slevin.

[MC]

Post by jslevin
I'm considering replacing the factory fitted radio/CD player & speakers on
my forthcoming new 2006 Golf GTI.
I am considering one of the Blaupunkt Funline or T-Line radio/CD players
along with the facia bracket and wiring connections.
I also want to replace the door and rear speakers without resorting to
cutting any panel on a brand new car.
Does anyone have a recommendation for speakers of sufficient dimensions
for direct simple replacement?
I can't find any dimensions anywhere for the factory VW speakers fitted as
standard in the 2006 GTI.

John
It would be worth doing a search and/or posting your questions on the Mk5
ICE forum at http://www.uk-mkivs.net/forum/. I've got a MK5 and you're
right, you need to replace the standard unit ASAP if you want decent sound.
However, general consensus tends to be that the speakers are pretty good.
Why not replace the HU first, see how it sounds and do the speaker upgrade
if necessary?
Cheers
Martin

[Avanti]

Post by jslevin
I'm considering replacing the factory fitted radio/CD player & speakers on
my forthcoming new 2006 Golf GTI.
I am considering one of the Blaupunkt Funline or T-Line radio/CD players
along with the facia bracket and wiring connections.
I also want to replace the door and rear speakers without resorting to
cutting any panel on a brand new car.
Does anyone have a recommendation for speakers of sufficient dimensions for
direct simple replacement?
I can't find any dimensions anywhere for the factory VW speakers fitted as
standard in the 2006 GTI.

Seems an odd upgrade, the RCD 300 is fine and the car has at least 8 if not
10 speakers, mine has 10 working but on the MKiv forum there is talk of the
2006 model only having 8, I have had my Golf since March and have no worries
about the standard radio set up, I have seen pics of the facia adaptor with
a head unit fitted , the combination certainley spoils the look of the
interior, personally for the cost of another HU, money maybe better spent on
options like an ipod adaptor or the phatnoise which was under 200ukp.

[MC]

Post by Avanti
Seems an odd upgrade, the RCD 300 is fine and the car has at least 8 if not
10 speakers, mine has 10 working but on the MKiv forum there is talk of the
2006 model only having 8, I have had my Golf since March and have no worries
about the standard radio set up, I have seen pics of the facia adaptor with
a head unit fitted , the combination certainley spoils the look of the
interior, personally for the cost of another HU, money maybe better spent on
options like an ipod adaptor or the phatnoise which was under 200ukp.

Personal preference I suppose, but I found the RCD 300 to be rubbish, drove
me crazy after 3/4 days. Base was ok but mid-range and tonal quality were
terrible, cheap and nasty. IMO money spent on an Alpine or similar is VERY
well spent, and if you get the right set up it will look good and of course
you can hang on to the original (you wouldn't get more than £20 on eBay for
it anyway) and refit it before selling. The speakers on the other hand seem
well up to the job for everyday use.
Regards
Martin

[Worcestor]

Post by MC
Personal preference I suppose, but I found the RCD 300 to be rubbish, drove
me crazy after 3/4 days. Base was ok but mid-range and tonal quality were
terrible, cheap and nasty. IMO money spent on an Alpine or similar is VERY
well spent, and if you get the right set up it will look good and of course

What do you mean drove you crazy?
Japanese units are very boom fizz, is that the sound you were seeking?
Can you post a picture of the single headunit adaptor in a Golf Mk5.

Does the other features like speed senisitive volume still work?

[MC]

Post by Worcestor
What do you mean drove you crazy?
Japanese units are very boom fizz, is that the sound you were seeking?
Can you post a picture of the single headunit adaptor in a Golf Mk5.
Does the other features like speed senisitive volume still work?

Crazy = irritating because it sounded wrong and spoilt the enjoyment of the
music, even voices sounded 'boomy'. My current Pioneer sounds great. Sorry
no pics and I haven't got anywhere to post them currently, you'll probably
find some on the mkiv forums or vwvortex. Basically the single din unit
goes in either the upper or lower slot and the unused slot can have another
audio unit, a blanking plate (doesn't look so good imo), or a 'cubby hole'.
GALA doesn't work on my system, that's not to say it won't work on others,
but I consider that a small price to pay for decent sound.

[Avanti]

Post by MC

Post by Avanti
Seems an odd upgrade, the RCD 300 is fine and the car has at least 8 if not
10 speakers, mine has 10 working but on the MKiv forum there is talk of the
2006 model only having 8, I have had my Golf since March and have no worries
about the standard radio set up, I have seen pics of the facia adaptor with
a head unit fitted , the combination certainley spoils the look of the
interior, personally for the cost of another HU, money maybe better

spent

Post by MC

Post by Avanti
on
options like an ipod adaptor or the phatnoise which was under 200ukp.

Personal preference I suppose, but I found the RCD 300 to be rubbish,

Maybe you do, but the original poster was considering upgrading to a funline
range, the units in VW are Blaupunkt and the funline is budget stuff hardly
an upgrade to the OE.

After spending the better part of 20K on a car buying an inferior head unit
to replace the OE does not seem sensible to me,
Money would be better spent on a speed camera detector than the funline
range, if he does change the head unit , it makes sense to keep the the OE
for when he comes to sell the car, as folk on the used car market prefer
standard cars to modified examples.
You mention that you lurk on the MKiv forum, so know that what I mention is
the experience of others as well as myself.

[MC]

Post by Avanti

Post by MC

Post by Avanti
Seems an odd upgrade, the RCD 300 is fine and the car has at least 8 if not
10 speakers, mine has 10 working but on the MKiv forum there is talk of the
2006 model only having 8, I have had my Golf since March and have no worries
about the standard radio set up, I have seen pics of the facia adaptor with
a head unit fitted , the combination certainley spoils the look of the
interior, personally for the cost of another HU, money maybe better

spent

Post by MC

Post by Avanti
on
options like an ipod adaptor or the phatnoise which was under 200ukp.

Personal preference I suppose, but I found the RCD 300 to be rubbish,

You mention that you lurk on the MKiv forum, so know that what I mention is
the experience of others as well as myself.

I think if you do a search of the mkiv forums you'll find general agreement
that the RCD300 is pants.

[Avanti]

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Post by MC
I think if you do a search of the mkiv forums you'll find general agreement
that the RCD300 is pants.

No worse than the funline range, you cannot deny, look at the specs, which
is what the OP asked about.
The MK5 gti is enough to enjoy , I wouldn't spoil mine by adding a inferior
head unit.

[jslevin]

Having noted the comments about the Funline Blaupunkts, I didn't realise
they were low-end. I'm just exploring the replacement options and I thought
all Blaupunkt were a potential upgrade, but I'm a novice at this.
What would be a 'significant' head replacement, sound-wise, bearing in mind
I just want tuner, cd and possibly mp3?
I don't mind spending a bit to get a top head unit and good speakers. Any
maker recommendations? Clarion, Alpine, Pioneer?
Thanks in anticipation and Happy New Year to all here.
John.

Post by Avanti
[snip]

Post by MC
I think if you do a search of the mkiv forums you'll find general

agreement

Post by MC
that the RCD300 is pants.

No worse than the funline range, you cannot deny, look at the specs, which
is what the OP asked about.
The MK5 gti is enough to enjoy , I wouldn't spoil mine by adding a inferior
head unit.

[Avanti]

Post by jslevin
Having noted the comments about the Funline Blaupunkts, I didn't realise
they were low-end. I'm just exploring the replacement options and I thought
all Blaupunkt were a potential upgrade, but I'm a novice at this.
What would be a 'significant' head replacement, sound-wise, bearing in mind
I just want tuner, cd and possibly mp3?
I don't mind spending a bit to get a top head unit and good speakers. Any
maker recommendations? Clarion, Alpine, Pioneer?
Thanks in anticipation and Happy New Year to all here.
John.

The HU in the VWs are Blaupunkt, the Los Angeles is/was a good unit , Before
I had my MK4 Golf, I was loading my other cars with 2 amps and speaker
upgrade dsp etc in the MK4 The sound was not asgood as the multi amp set up
but was ample, I could not be bothered to pull the car apart to run wires,
the GTI MK5 is even more congested under the bonnet so I doubt I will be
doing anything to it either.
I would have favoured MD so did look at the adaptors but seeing a picture of
one put me right off, perhaps a unit with dsp and satnav with a large screen
would do the trick, does the 2006 model have black trim as opposed to grey?

[MC]

Post by jslevin
Having noted the comments about the Funline Blaupunkts, I didn't realise
they were low-end. I'm just exploring the replacement options and I
thought all Blaupunkt were a potential upgrade, but I'm a novice at this.
What would be a 'significant' head replacement, sound-wise, bearing in
mind I just want tuner, cd and possibly mp3?
I don't mind spending a bit to get a top head unit and good speakers. Any
maker recommendations? Clarion, Alpine, Pioneer?
Thanks in anticipation and Happy New Year to all here.
John.

John
I suggest:
1. Get the GTI and live with the audio for a couple of days and see what you
think.
2. If you don't think it's good enough, upgrade to an Alpine/Pioneer/Becker
etc. have a look at this link for some discussion:
http://www.uk-mkivs.net/forums/407832/ShowPost.aspx - you're obviously going
for the sound quality you want and something that looks right, option to
change the button colours to match the other switches is important.
3. Only consider changing the speakers if you don't think they're up to
scratch, but I think you'll find they are with a decent HU.

HTH
Martin

[Avanti]

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Post by MC
John
1. Get the GTI and live with the audio for a couple of days and see what you
think.

Agreed, not forgetting that you can adjust the tone controls balance and
fader ;-p

Post by MC
2. If you don't think it's good enough, upgrade to an

Alpine/Pioneer/Becker

Post by MC
http://www.uk-mkivs.net/forums/407832/ShowPost.aspx - you're obviously going
for the sound quality you want and something that looks right, option to
change the button colours to match the other switches is important.

And then look at this link which has a picture of the MK 5 with a natty
Alpine, which I think spoils the interior even at night view.
http://www.uk-mkivs.net/forums/407935/ShowPost.aspx

Post by MC
3. Only consider changing the speakers if you don't think they're up to
scratch, but I think you'll find they are with a decent HU.

Agreed.

[jslevin]

Post by Avanti
[snip]

Post by MC
John
1. Get the GTI and live with the audio for a couple of days and see what

you

Post by MC
think.

Agreed, not forgetting that you can adjust the tone controls balance and
fader ;-p

Post by MC
2. If you don't think it's good enough, upgrade to an

Alpine/Pioneer/Becker

Post by MC
http://www.uk-mkivs.net/forums/407832/ShowPost.aspx - you're obviously

going

Post by MC
for the sound quality you want and something that looks right, option to
change the button colours to match the other switches is important.

And then look at this link which has a picture of the MK 5 with a natty
Alpine, which I think spoils the interior even at night view.
http://www.uk-mkivs.net/forums/407935/ShowPost.aspx

Post by MC
3. Only consider changing the speakers if you don't think they're up to
scratch, but I think you'll find they are with a decent HU.

Agreed.
Thanks fellas! Sounds like good advice ok.

John.

[shanil haripersad]

hey guys.I have a similar dillema.I am not as lucky to have a GTI because
prices here in South Africa are freaking ridiculous.I do however have a 2l
golf mk5.I put in a v-max cerwin vega 600watt rms with a dreamaudio 1200watt
rms amp.the box n stuff is great but it sounds shit coz the standard 10
speakers actually sound shit.Is there different speakers for the different
ranges of golfs coz mine is a treadline.My brother has a comfortline and
sound pretty good.i have an alpine mp3 which is 75X4 rms.the guys at the
fittment center say they cant turn the standard speakers down so when i
increase volume it sound like tin.Any suggestions